Summary
Moving the research function out from UX can transform how insights influence product-making in an organization. In this talk, Nalini explains how and why she led this shift for her team at Salesforce, as well as the move’s effect on their work and impact. Nalini will also share lessons learned in the process - “the how to’s” and the “absolutely how not to’s” - that may inspire and guide leaders and individual contributors alike.
Key Insights
-
•
Decoupling research from UX can provide researchers with more agency to frame broader business problems beyond design.
-
•
Identity work is a fundamental challenge when moving research out of UX, requiring careful leadership attention.
-
•
Playing the long game through persistent business case building and internal socialization is essential for organizational change.
-
•
Research teams positioned alongside product management, engineering, and data science gain higher visibility and influence.
-
•
Measuring research impact becomes more complex but broader, shifting from simple metrics like study counts to influence and strategic involvement.
-
•
Research operations functions are crucial infrastructure that enable scalable, efficient research beyond UX.
-
•
Control over budget and headcount advocacy improves significantly when research reports outside UX.
-
•
COVID-19 amplified issues around identity and belonging for team members during organizational transitions.
-
•
In B2B companies like Salesforce, much product decision-making happens before UX, necessitating research involvement earlier in the lifecycle.
-
•
Providing reassurance and support for new research skills helps ease team anxieties during structural changes.
Notable Quotes
"What happens if research does not report into UX? What might happen if we uncouple research from UX?"
"We made this move in January 2020 — our research and insights team moved out of UX but stayed within product organizations."
"Conscious uncoupling is about identity — how one thinks of oneself defines oneself and how others define you."
"I believed we could do more — more for the company, customers, stakeholders, and ourselves if we had more agency."
"Our research practice was perceived largely as design testers, empathy vehicles, and policing functions — a narrow, reactive role."
"After the move, our work had more impact, more visibility, and we're present across the entire product life cycle."
"Research operations is the spine of any successful research and insights group."
"For the first time, I was able to advocate for funding directly for the research function at high executive levels."
"I underestimated how much identity our team tied to UX and how scary that loss felt to many of them."
"Our shift is structural, not because of personalities — it was needed to influence earlier, more business-centric decisions."
Or choose a question:
More Videos
"A couple of sketches I made in 15 minutes helped engineers decide on a data model that positively impacted the user experience."
Catt SmallMoving from Execution to Strategy as a Designer
December 6, 2022
"Be authentic in your portfolio and speak to your unique experiences and values."
Louis RosenfeldCoffee with Lou
January 11, 2024
"You don’t get anyone to do anything."
Matt LeMayYou Don’t “Get” Anyone to Do Anything
December 6, 2022
"Nearly 30 years into my career, I’m doing the most rewarding work of my life helping modernize military space systems."
Michal Anne RogondinoSaving Outer Space: The First UX Design System for Our Nation’s Satellites
January 8, 2024
"Profit is simply revenues minus costs, so we measure design’s contribution by the effect on either side."
Gonzalo GoyanesDesign ROI: Cover a Little, Get a Lot
September 8, 2022
"Connectivity and communication across organizational silos like product, marketing, and sales is key to advancing research impact."
Chris Geison Dr. Jamika D. Burge Jemma AhmedWhat's Next for Research?
June 17, 2021
"Instead of facing 2020 with exhaustion, folks were looking at it with renewed commitment and bravery."
Jemma AhmedTheme 2 Intro
March 10, 2022
"Cross-silo communication is huge because AI is only as good as the permeable membrane between data."
Erika FlowersAI-Readiness: Preparing NASA for a Data-Driven, Agile Future
June 10, 2025
"Improving the legacy of the software experience requires focusing on research and the human experience."
Dr. Jamika D. BurgeTheme 3 Intro
March 11, 2022