Rosenverse

This video is only accessible to Gold members. Log in or register for a free Gold Trial Account to watch.

Log in Register

Most conference talks are accessible to Gold members, while community videos are generally available to all logged-in members.

Be a Product Boss!
Gold
Tuesday, December 6, 2022 • Design in Product 2022
Share the love for this talk
Be a Product Boss!
Speakers: Wendy Johansson
Link:

Summary

Having grown her career from UX designer to Product Experience leader, Wendy Johansson has learned a thing or two about what it means to "be a product boss". Along the way she's had plenty of wins, more than her fair share of fails, and one or two moments when things completely blew up in her face. So, rest-assured, she'll be speaking truth in this presentation where she will share why, when, and how designers should level up their careers towards product bossdom! From understanding just what it is that product leaders do, to learning how you can incorporate product know-how into your design skills toolkit--Wendy will help you bring out your inner product boss for more effective communications and outcomes in all your organizational interactions - across engineering, product, sales, and even your own team! Be sure to join the live post-session Q+A with Wendy for the opportunity to share questions and relate your own experiences of being a product boss!

Key Insights

  • A broad early role spanning design, sales, marketing, and operations builds invaluable cross-functional perspective for product leadership.

  • Product leadership is less about specific tools or processes, and more about managing people and relationships effectively.

  • The concept of managing ‘up, down, sideways, and outwards’ frames all essential stakeholder relationships a product leader must navigate.

  • Managing up means arming your managers with information so they can defend design investments and advocate for the team.

  • Transparency and empathy in managing down helps teams handle shifting priorities and avoid morale-damaging 'whiplash'.

  • Managing sideways requires meeting peers where they are, adapting communication style to diverse roles, like doctors or sales.

  • Managing outwards is about direct engagement with customers or end users, surfacing real needs beyond surface feature requests.

  • Reframing design skills toward understanding and influencing partner teams drives product success without requiring formal PM titles.

  • Product and design should be considered parts of the same ecosystem focused on solving for users collaboratively.

  • Resilience in teams grows when leaders share challenges openly rather than sheltering them, preparing teams for real-world complexity.

Notable Quotes

"Product is designed. Design is product. We are looking at the same ecosystem in the bigger picture."

"That table at the top where product strategy happens is wonky AF—it's different everywhere and influenced by politics and people's experiences."

"Managing up is about understanding what your managers need to get promoted and helping them achieve that."

"Being a product boss isn’t about the tools you use. It’s all about the people and relationships behind those people."

"The four stretches of product leadership are managing up, down, sideways, and outwards."

"I would let my teams have those hard experiences instead of holding the umbrella because resilience comes from facing challenges directly."

"We don’t call anyone a product manager in our org, but as a product boss, I wear that hat and help designers grow into that ownership."

"Managing sideways means meeting people where they are and speaking their language — especially when working with doctors and psychologists."

"Politics will always be there. You can’t avoid it, but you can learn to navigate it without it detracting from your craft."

"To be a product leader, you don’t need a PM course, bootcamp, or MBA. You need to reframe your design skills for the people around you."

Ask the Rosenbot
Eniola Oluwole
Lessons From the DesignOps Journey of the World's Largest Travel Site
2019 • DesignOps Summit 2019
Gold
Robert Schwartz
We're Here for the Humans
2017 • Enterprise Experience 2017
Gold
Christian Crumlish
The Pygmalion Effect: In Which a Vibe Coding Experiment Becomes a Million Lines…
2025 • Rosenfeld Community
Brigette Metzler
Scaling ResearchOps: Helping Researchers do Their Best Work
2020 • Advancing Research 2020
Gold
Marc Rettig
Discussion
2015 • Enterprise UX 2015
Gold
Emily DiLeo
Stronger Together: Lessons Learned from UX Research Ops
2024 • DesignOps Summit 2024
Gold
Lisanne Norman
Why I Left Research
2023 • Advancing Research 2023
Gold
Andy Polaine
What is the role of service design in product-led organizations?
2024 • Advancing Service Design 2024
Gold
Dave Hoffer
UX Job Search AMA #2 with Joanne Weaver and Dave Hoffer
2025 • Rosenfeld Community
Maverick Chan
From Doodle to Demo: AI as Our Storytelling Partner
2025 • Rosenfeld Community
Sarah Brooks
Theme 3 Intro
2021 • Civic Design 2021
Gold
Llewyn Paine
Day 1 Using AI in UX with Impact
2025 • Designing with AI 2025
Gold
Vanessa Varin
Feedback: The Other F-Word
2025 • DesignOps Summit 2025
Gold
Marissa Cui
Climate Design Product Showcase
2024 • Climate UX Interest Group
Mike Oren
Why Pharmaceutical's Research Model Should Replace Design Thinking
2023 • Advancing Research 2023
Gold
Kevin Bethune
Gatekeepers and Servant Leadership
2020 • DesignOps Community

More Videos

Shahrzad Samadzadeh

"Designers create value by making artifacts and experiences before fully understanding the space."

Shahrzad Samadzadeh

What Is My Value? Two Takes and Some Mistakes

January 8, 2024

Brenna Fallon

"Growth and learning is your long term change management plan—does it take letting go of a clear outcome? Yes, but it’s worth the leap."

Brenna Fallon

Learning Over Outcomes

October 24, 2019

Ruzanna Rozman

"Developing team flow is a lot like dating—you have to nurture it, build instinct, and practice."

Ruzanna Rozman

Getting in Flow with Your Team

January 8, 2024

Sheryl Cababa

"Optimizing something for ease of use does not mean it’s best for humanity — infinite scroll is a cautionary example."

Sheryl Cababa

Expanding your Design Lens with Systems Thinking

March 28, 2023

Melissa Schmidt

"We created simple report templates to help people who have never done research before share their insights."

Melissa Schmidt Adam Menter

How UX Research Hit It Big in Las Vegas

June 4, 2019

Nathan Curtis

"If your organization is healthy, the haters pretty quickly get marginalized."

Nathan Curtis Nalini P. Kotamraju Jack Moffett Dawn Ressel

Discussion

June 9, 2016

Jake Burghardt

"Activating insights multiple times can be necessary before teams truly internalize and act on them."

Jake Burghardt

Stop wasting research: Create new value with insight summaries

July 9, 2025

Kate Towsey

"Research is democratized: if you’re not democratizing, you probably don’t even realize everyone in your company is talking to users in different ways."

Kate Towsey Basel Fakhoury Oren Friedman Graham Gardner

Participant Recruitment and Management Tools

March 12, 2026

Bria Alexander

"Cohorts are consistently one of the highest rated parts of the conference — they’re a fantastic way to learn together."

Bria Alexander

Opening Remarks

September 9, 2022