Rosenverse
Panel Discussion: Communicating the Value of DesignOps

This video is only accessible to Gold members. Log in or register for a free Gold Trial Account to watch.

Log in Register

Most conference talks are accessible to Gold members, while community videos are generally available to all logged-in members.

Panel Discussion: Communicating the Value of DesignOps

Gold
Wednesday, November 7, 2018 • DesignOps Summit 2018
Share the love for this talk
Link:

Summary

In the discussion, Brennan from Target explains his design ops team’s composition, emphasizing the current presence of himself in a chief-of-staff-like role and design program managers handling high-level initiatives like onboarding and product releases. He elaborates on the emerging role of producers focused on pixel-perfect design execution and operational efficiency. Chris and Mark contrast this with smaller teams lacking producers but employing roles like scrum designers and design architects. Brennan shares his experience implementing the maker schedule in a bureaucratic environment, emphasizing the necessity of executive buy-in from VPs and COOs to mandate protected design time. Ashley Jaron raises the question of fostering and measuring a user-first mindset, with panelists highlighting the complexity, often relying on countless small initiatives rather than clear metrics. Stories like having leadership admins answer customer calls reveal impactful cultural change methods. Chris discusses their success creating a quality scorecard based on heuristics, built iteratively over nine agile sprints to translate soft design concepts into data-driven metrics, though Mark notes some organizations like CERN may resist such approaches due to their scientific culture. Brennan clarifies that most surveyed designers are not production-focused but engage in defining product features, user advocacy, and balancing design with product roles. The panel reflects on storytelling strategies to communicate design ops value, such as linking design issues to business outcomes (e.g., referral revenue) during company-wide meetings. They differentiate design ops from general operations, stressing the need for empathy and understanding of design work akin to how TPMs understand engineering. Regarding the future of design, the panel views AI and tooling as augmenting rather than replacing designers, embracing an experimental mindset with new tools. Finally, Chris defines design strategy as a team-driven broader role that goes beyond ops to include corporate planning and strategic design sprints at multiple organizational layers. Overall, the talk surfaces nuanced challenges and successes in building and promoting design ops in diverse organizational contexts.

Key Insights

  • •

    Brennan’s design ops team currently has a chief-of-staff role and design program managers, with plans to incorporate producers managing day-to-day design production.

  • •

    Producers likely manage detailed task execution in tools like JIRA, while program managers oversee higher-level, long-term initiatives.

  • •

    Implementing the maker schedule requires executive support, especially in bureaucratic organizations, as grassroots efforts alone are insufficient.

  • •

    Measuring a user-first mindset is a complex 'wicked problem' with no single metric; success comes from numerous small cultural shifts.

  • •

    Engaging leadership directly with customer experiences, such as having admins take support calls, can powerfully shift organizational empathy for users.

  • •

    Chris’s quality scorecard was developed iteratively over nine sprints, translating qualitative design heuristics into a quantifiable metric used by PMs.

  • •

    Certain scientific or research-driven cultures may resist adopting design measurement tools due to skepticism about methodology and relevance.

  • •

    Most designers studied spend limited time on production design; their core work involves product definition, user advocacy, and early-stage research.

  • •

    Design ops storytelling succeeds by aligning design impact with key business metrics like referral revenue and attrition in company-wide forums.

  • •

    Design ops requires domain understanding akin to technical program managers, blending operational skills with deep empathy for design work.

Notable Quotes

"I feel like I play more of a chief of staff type role than just head of design operations."

"A producer is probably in JIRA day-to-day, running tasks, creating tickets and epics, while a program manager tracks board-level timelines."

"We had to push up the ladder to VP and COO level to get the maker schedule endorsed and mandated."

"Every one of us is probably the lubricant in a system—you only notice us when things go bad."

"We took all the leadership admins to a call center for a week to make them feel what customers go through."

"We made up the quality scorecard, translating fuzzier heuristics into a hard number for our data-driven company."

"Science cultures like CERN have a huge headwind against adopting design measurement tools because of skepticism."

"Designers often have to step up and play the product manager role to define features and evangelize for users."

"We built a linear aggression model showing direct correlation between design problems and business metrics like referral revenue."

"A design program manager needs to understand at least what interaction, visual, and motion design mean—much like TPMs know engineering."

Ask the Rosenbot
Jeff Ephraim Bander
Eye Tracking Gamechanger: Why Smartphone Eye Tracking will Revolutionize Your UX Research
2022 • Advancing Research 2022
Gold
Satyam Kantamneni
Do You Have an Experience Vision?
2023 • Enterprise Community
Lily Aduana
5 Reasons to Bring Your Recruiting in-House (and How To Do It)
2021 • Advancing Research 2021
Gold
Hang Xu
Live Sensemaking: How Might We Shape Tools that Extend Us at Every Level, from Product to Workflow to Community?
2026 • Shift UX 2026
Conference
Jon Fukuda
All the Ops: Successful cross-functional collaboration
2025 • DesignOps Summit 2025
Gold
Sean Dolan
A Practical Look at Creating More Usable Enterprise Customer Journeys
2019 • Enterprise Community
Kurdin Bazaz
Culture, DIBS & Recruiting
2021 • Design at Scale 2021
Gold
Katie Hansen
Experimental research: techniques for deep, psychology-driven insights
2025 • Advancing Research 2025
Gold
Catt Small
Moving from Execution to Strategy as a Designer
2022 • Design in Product 2022
Gold
Mackenzie Cockram
Integrating Qualitative and Quantitative Research from Discovery to Live
2022 • QuantQual Interest Group
Cheryl Platz
Embrace Your Fun Factor: Game Development Best Practices for Product Design
2026 • Rosenfeld Community
Rima Campbell
Increase Productivity and Drive Business Impact
2024 • DesignOps Summit 2024
Gold
Harry Max
Failure Friday #5: Lessons from a SaaS Design Failure
2025 • Rosenfeld Community
Tony Turner
Capturing Deep Insights
2021 • DesignOps Summit 2021
Gold
Erin Hoffman-John
This Game is Never Done: Design Leadership Techniques from the Video Game World
2017 • DesignOps Summit 2017
Gold
Aaron Stienstra
Leveraging Civic Design to Advance Equity and Rebuild Trust in the US Federal Government
2021 • Civic Design 2021
Gold

More Videos

Laura Smith

"Planning officers became product owners, gaining confidence in agile and design processes through ongoing involvement."

Laura Smith Tom Gayler

Embedding Service Design and Agile Practice within UK Planning Teams to Create Services that Last

December 3, 2024

Trisha Causley

"A prompt is just a set of instructions to an AI in the context of text generation."

Trisha Causley

[Demo] Complexity in disguise: Crafting experiences for generative AI features

June 5, 2024

Fisayo Osilaja

"My goal for today is to showcase how generative AI can go beyond just speeding up our processes to actually catapult us in our career."

Fisayo Osilaja

[Demo] The AI edge: From researcher to strategist

June 4, 2024

Ruzanna Rozman

"We started with almost nothing and didn’t really know what goal we were trying to achieve."

Ruzanna Rozman

Getting in Flow with Your Team

January 8, 2024

Karen McGrane

"Running AI categorization on 2000 posts took 38 hours, $19, and as much carbon as driving a 1998 Chevy Malibu from Philly to Brooklyn."

Karen McGrane Jeff Eaton

AI for Information Architects: Are the robots coming for our jobs?

November 21, 2024

Amelia Cole

"Preparation is key: pilot studies and a data analysis plan before launching ensure data quality and study success."

Amelia Cole

Data-Prompted Interviews

December 17, 2021

Trisha Terhar

"Not everyone is necessarily asking to be empowered or ready to be empowered when launching these programs."

Trisha Terhar

Empathizing with the Empowered: Non-Researcher Responses to Democratization

March 10, 2022

Jen van der Meer

"In Indigenous outcomes, payments are released only when medical and community metrics are met and validated."

Jen van der Meer

Service design performs value

November 19, 2025

Steve Baty

"Cultural shifts to experience-driven companies are less about creating new teams and more about creating a collective movement everyone owns."

Steve Baty Richard Dalton Maria Giudice Harry Max

Discussion

June 9, 2016

Latest Books All books